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Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-02 02:46 PM
So, did you successfully download and install Maestro? What do you think of the tool? Reply to this message and let us know!
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-02 05:45 PM
| I successfully downloaded and installed Maestro. This is a very complicated tool but the conductor has gotten me started. I did the traning activities and then continued to add new targets and inspect them. Very neat tool and I can't wait to add some images from Gusev Crater! |
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-02 08:11 PM
| Just downloading it now, John Great Job on site! |
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-03 12:51 AM
Hello,
Installing was no problem at all, i get only 5 frames /s ,but that ts ok.
Its very cool to have this opportunity.
Cant wait to see the first 3d pics from the landing loc.
Again Very Cool. |
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-03 06:42 AM
Fabulous work! Thank you for making it available to the public. Install was real easy. It will take time to digest and comprehend the UI. I'm sure the User Guide will be just as helpful in its scope as the Conductor was in its introductory scope. Looking forward to the real stuff from Mars!! Thanks to the team that made this tool possible.
1. Are the five of you listed in the User Guide a full subset of the ones who developed the real tool at JPL?
2. Also, do you know if there is a similar tool available for Cassini/Hyugens planned, in not already available?
3. Will we be informed by email when new, real content from Mars is posted on your site for us to sync with you? |
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-03 06:46 AM
| Just started playing with Maestro. Very Very cool!!!! What a great idea to get people interested in the subject!!! Whoever thought of distributing the software for the public to play with deserves a raise. |
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-03 07:51 AM
Vincent,
Allow me to answer your questions:
From vincent_pinto:
1. Are the five of you listed in the User Guide a full subset of the ones who developed the real tool at JPL?
2. Also, do you know if there is a similar tool available for Cassini/Hyugens planned, in not already available?
3. Will we be informed by email when new, real content from Mars is posted on your site for us to sync with you?
1. Yes - the authors of the User Guide constitute the whole team responsible for the development of the Maestro software and its "big brother" which is used at JPL. Others have contributed their effort specifically to this public outreach effort and are listed on the acknowlegements page.
2. I am not aware of a similar tool thath will be made available for Cassini/Hyugens, but I don't work for that mission and could be mistaken.
3. We had not planned to inform people by email of updates. My recommendation is to check the Maestro website about 5 days or so after we land. If there is enough interest in email updates perhaps we could find a way to make this possible.
Thanks for trying out Maestro!
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-03 09:57 AM
Very cool tool and a Java application to boot! I had it installed on my Linux box in minutes. The test range data is interesting, but I can't wait to see the real thing.
I am an experienced Java programmer and a space enthusiast, any suggestions as to how I might land a job writing a cool application like this one using Java? I used to work for Altair Aerospace, but the company folded after the Dot-bomb and its acquisition by a larger organization. I would really love the chance to apply Java software to the space domain again.
Anyway, congratualtions on a very cool tool! I also hope that NASA uses this as a model of involving the public in the future, it is pretty progressive to open up your application and data to the general public.
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-03 11:44 AM
Goodness gratious man. I do think the idea of letting ppl use "public" versions of NASA tools is stupendous!
But... I also use Linux and Java is in my opinion an abomination and we need NOT to have our public agencies use that nonsense just because for some reason the Slashdot crowd thinks is "cool" and "sexy".
My personal feelings aside, Maestro performs on my 1.4G P4/Nvidia 4600Ti box with 5-10 seconds per frame, yes SECONDS PER FRAME not the other way around, refresh rate.
I do realize that you Java lovers consider it quite acceptable to demand companies buy monster computers for the secretaries so that they can have the 3 checkboxes of the latest Java goobley-gook app redraw faster then a century. I dont.
As it stands Maestro is for all practical purposes unusable for me and I am sure a large slice of ppl who will download it will find it so too. Cool features and cross-platform VM is not a substitute for being able to use an application. I know Java programmers think otherwise. Thats why we no longer use IBM DB2 and any other Java-insane application will follow its fate.
Java is a tool for making tiny web browser plug-in applets and THATS IT! |
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-07 08:42 AM
I bet Java was chosen as they wished to have a decent 3D engine while maintaining cross-platform support. Also, the main program could be using Java as well, and then there might not really be an option to switch language just like that, since it would involve a whole lot of work just to port the thing.
As for Maestro, it does OK for me. It's very usable at least, and I think memory matters most with it. I have 512 MB personally, and recommend that for a lot of other reasons than running Maestro too.  |
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-07 11:29 PM
Your tool was announced a few hours back on slashdot and I think everyone was very impressed. (As to your concerns about the garbage posts, you have to use the filter at +1 or +2 to get rid of all the anonymous posters and everyone who reads /. already does that).
I thought Maestro ran amazingly well with java. You should be very proud of providing this kind of programs and data to school kids and all the other wanna-be explorers out there. (It was more fun and probably more educational than a robot simulator in a graduate robotic EE course). I was taken back by the tutorial you included with the Mar #1 dataset and amazed at how it was truely the experience of being at Mission Control and looking over the rover data as it came in. It will be amazing when more 3D data is available and the rovers drives around. I'm sure everyone is really looking forward to these extra datasets. Again, congratulations on probably the most exciting thing NASA has done since the first images of mars came back from the 1997 rover. You can probably rightly credit yourselves with inspiring a whole generation of engineers and scientists. |
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-08 02:17 AM
Great job! It is working very well for me - Mac OS X - and I'm looking forward to more data coming through as we wander off the lander. Thank you very much for making it available.
You've made a Mars geek very happy. :-) |
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-15 04:26 PM
It's really WOW!! I newer seen something like that before!! It's easy to install, and works fine (but needs powerfull computer). It's little compilcated, but probobly easy to learn.
Chears!! |
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-15 06:37 PM
Hi,
Great tool, and I'm checking expectantly for the next updates. I have the good fortune to have a new Mac G5, dual 2.0 GHz machine, with 1.5 GB RAM, and Maestro is a JOY to use on this hardware. The 3-d graphics are awesome. My frame rate is 66-100+ FPS. I really appreciate being included in the adventure.
Thanks again,
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-15 07:26 PM
Maestro works very well on my machine. I have 1GB of RDRam, a 2800+ XP AMD processor, and a GeForce 4 video card. Everything runs smooth. Nice application.
Is it possible to upload the names I have assigned objects in my session? I'd like to "own" a piece of mars.
When is data set 2 going to be available? |
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-15 07:49 PM
love it, LOVE it, LOVE IT! The download went smooth and quick, and Maestro runs great on my Powerbook G4 with Panther. It's pretty easy to use, I was zipping around the images in nothing flat! Want more!
I love that you're making this available to us regular folks...I'm going to show it to my students if we ever get back to school in this freezing weather. I'll be running over to the laptop in the middle of classes, checking for updates! Homework? Nah! go home and use Maestro! :-) |
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-15 09:11 PM
This is a very cool program! I am a high school physics teacher. I am using this program, along with images from JPL to give my physics students Mars Rover Updates each school day. My students say that they cannot wait to come to class each day to hear about the Rover. Several of my students want to use this program to access the information too.
What a great idea to make this available to the public!
I am using this on a Powerbook G4 with the Panther operating system. It has worked flawlessly! The first download images are really neat in 3D. My students and I cannot wait for more! |
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-15 09:20 PM
I teacher at Barbara Bush Middle School in Dallas and we have distributed this program to 5 teachers (all science teachers). Everyone is absolutly amazed at what can be done with this tool. It does take quite a but of comuting power but then again it is quite a powerful "little program".
Thank you all so much for making this available to us, it is absolutly AMAZING!!!
Cheers,
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-15 09:26 PM
I would just like to say to all of you people complaining, this software beats wits any day. I learned to use Wits a few months ago and it was more difficult to use with less features (Wits was the software used for FIDO). You should download it to get an appreciation for this software http://sap.jpl.nasa.gov/public/downloadfido.html. This software is great as far as I'm concerned even if it does run slow at times. I also have a question. What is the difference between maestro and the public release of sap? Is there a way to use the update on this site in sap and is there any reason to do that?
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Re: Tell us about your Maestro experiences!
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2004-01-15 11:35 PM
| I had no problem installing Maestro on my 600 MHz iMac with Mac OS X Panther. The program runs rather sluggish, but the pictures are great! I am anxious to get the next data set. |
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